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Sasha Shulgin — 3 recordings in the archive.
The book: PIHKAL: A Chemical Love Story by Alexander and Ann Shulgin.
So what I want to talk about today is the synthetic side of things the didn't seem to know if there's a very good friend of mine now did stay with parents from Kenneth he's giving an election one time in excellent but remember that Andy remember that yeah he was giving this long talk about the beauties of Ayahuasca the beauty of the DMT and all these natural psychedelics and not very deeply the skies under his discussion was the fact if it ain't naturalization you wouldn't say it quite that way but you knew there was a Prejudice seeking in there about Naturals approaches solution today and it's happening about these very excellent natural materials and he's not ready to do a little bit more of a negative on the synthetics talk about the audience saw me and he didn't want to tearing down Milo rule of sentences because he had dipped into it appreciate sentence but his theme of that let's talk was the natural version synthetic it's a bit more sleeping around I think Jonathan one of the first ones to come off the actual numbers DMT I mess with quickly which I'll get into and let's not get into that sense but get into an electrician a little later in the hour is a good example of the conflict here because it was first synthesized by Mansfield up in Canada roughly 1932 33 35 somewhere there and it was discovered as a component of the South American Plant about 20 years later director at Bristol for a while that's how I learned about that but this is 20 years it was a synthetic compound and then it was discovered in nature so for 20 years from his philosophy it's something that is not a good chemical not a good drug but once it was found in the tree somewhere in South America or bush it's okay and they're about four or five drugs that are synthetics that have been found in nature so there's the idea of keeping a question is it a natural be safer because people use things that people use the street line for 100 thousands of years doesn't make it safe so you'd have to hold that kind of a restriction to the base but anyway I want to talk about the synthetics that have come out of setting the natural…